Ministry of Education, Guyana

Topic: Professional Standards for Teachers

  • 00:29 (Guest) rasul: Good Evening and Welcome
  • 00:30 SuelleWilliams: Good evening everyone. Welcome to the chatroom.
  • 00:30 DoodmattieSingh: Thanks Suelle
  • 00:30 (Guest) rasul: Thanks
  • 00:30 SuelleWilliams: the topic for this evening is the "Professional Standards for Teachers"
  • 00:31 MarcelHutson: Good evening all
  • 00:32 SuelleWilliams: Minister Manickchand would not be able able to join us this evening. Her absence was unavoidable. The senior officers of the Ministry lead by Mrs. Hamilton, Chief Planning Officer will be talking with you tonight.
  • 00:34 SuelleWilliams: Rasul, you'll be happy to know that next week we'll be talking about PTAs.
  • 00:34 (Guest) rasul: Thanks Suelle
  • 00:34 SuelleWilliams: So, what do you think about the standards? what should be included, adjusted or taken out?
  • 00:35 (Guest) rasul: Looking Forward to that
  • 00:36 DoodmattieSingh: The guiding principles of the Professional Standards for Teachers are (1)Teachers know the subject(s) that they teach (2) Teachers know how to teach the subject(s) for which they are responsible (3) Teachers are committed to children in their care and effectively manage diversity to promote inclusiveness in the learning process (4) Teachers sharpen their professional skills (5) Teachers interact with parents and the community and (6) Teachers conduct themselves in a manner that will uplift the p
  • 00:37 (Guest) rasul: I think that the Consultation on the Draft was quickly runed through we need more consultation so that the persons involved better understand what its all about
  • 00:38 MarcelHutson: The time has come for us to seriously institute a document a document that will give credence to teaching as a profession
  • 00:38 DoodmattieSingh: To date a total of 36 consultations were held across Education Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and Georgetown.
  • 00:39 (Guest) rasul: At QC it was a rush rush we need more time to listen to what our people had to say
  • 00:39 (Guest) rasul: From 1 pm would have been a better time than 3pm
  • 00:39 (Guest) HarryGill: Hello everyone!
  • 00:40 SuelleWilliams: good night Harry
  • 00:40 MarcelHutson: This document was generally welcomed by those I had consultations with
  • 00:40 (Guest) HarryGill: Hi Suelle
  • 00:41 DoodmattieSingh: you can join any one in Region 4 one will be held in Pleasiance
  • 00:41 DoodmattieSingh: Generally participants at the consultations have accepted the tenets of the draft Professional Standards for Teachers. In many instances teachers have said the standards should have been in place a long time ago. Participants in Regions 1 and 2 are particularly happy for the standards – they see the MOE as moving to a good place
  • 00:42 (Guest) rasul: You can have 1000 consultations but did the persons understand what the document is about
  • 00:42 abiola: Good evening everyone
  • 00:43 (Guest) HarryGill: Hello Abiola
  • 00:43 (Guest) rasul: We want to make sure everyone undertand what we are doing clearly before it goes to parliament for passing
  • 00:44 DoodmattieSingh: the document was given to the teachers in December 2013 and all were informed since then that they will given the opportunity for consultation
  • 00:44 (Guest) rasul: I think lots of persons at QC were not happy
  • 00:45 (Guest) rasul: How many perons read the document
  • 00:45 (Guest) rasul: Persons
  • 00:47 (Guest) HarryGill: Rasul, I guess that's the reason the MOE is bringing this forum to inform the general public. Let's be frank here, most people are reluctant to accept changes of any kind. Especially thais changes that hold them accountable.
  • 00:47 (Guest) HarryGill: "those changes"
  • 00:47 (Guest) rasul: Harry i still think the timing is too short
  • 00:49 DoodmattieSingh: Of course a few persons are dissatisfied with a few sections for example participants at all the consultations were concerned with the entry qualification for CPCE being proposed to now be CSEC Grades 1 and 2 only. There were 3 solid suggestions from the groups (i) continue to accept Grades 1 to 3 for two to three more years and change the criteria to Grades 1 and 2 as our results for Mathematics & English improve (ii) accept Grades 1 and 2 in the other subjects and 1 to 3 for English and Ma
  • 00:49 SuelleWilliams: Rasul, here your opportunity to giver your comments on the document.
  • 00:50 (Guest) rasul: I read that document once and thats it
  • 00:51 (Guest) HarryGill: Maybe so, but I have been to some of these consultations, and when teachers were invited to contribute to the discussion, just a very few had anything to say.
  • 00:51 MarcelHutson: Education is dynamic and as a consequence there must be a roadmap to raise standards of teachers and performance of their charges
  • 00:51 (Guest) rasul: Because some of them dont even understand the document i guess
  • 00:52 (Guest) rasul: Mr Hutson you cando your best but its up to your teachers to deliver
  • 00:52 (Guest) HarryGill: I agree totally with your remark Mr. Hudson.
  • 00:53 (Guest) rasul: You can have 100 documents do they adhere to the MOE policies
  • 00:53 DoodmattieSingh: Many teachers have said that the doc is not asking for anything new it is just now putting what they were told over the years in black and white
  • 00:54 (Guest) rasul: ok Mrs Singh
  • 00:54 (Guest) rasul: If you say so
  • 00:56 (Guest) HarryGill: Rasul, if teachers cannot understand the document outlining Professional Standards for Teachers after reading it, they should seriously consider another career.
  • 00:56 SuelleWilliams: we would love to hear from some of our other chatroom guest about the standards. What do you think friends?
  • 00:56 (Guest) rasul: Very Good Point Harry
  • 00:57 (Guest) rasul: Maybe like i said some people dont even understand the topic tonight
  • 00:57 DoodmattieSingh: I am disappointed that we are not seeing more members of the public at these consultations
  • 00:58 alana: HI! Good evening! I think the document is not dealing with the pressing issues school have. I personally don't know why headteachers have to be the ones purchasing materials for the school, when in order to so they have to leave the shool charge to the deputy who in turn most of the time has to leave a class unatended to deal with other matters other than teaching
  • 00:59 (Guest) HarryGill: Good evening Alana, welcome!
  • 01:01 SuelleWilliams: thank you for sharing alana. what else would you like us to take note of?
  • 01:01 alana: a lot will be right back
  • 01:01 (Guest) HarryGill: Alana, I guess someone has got to be held accountable for purchases made. Don't you agree?
  • 01:02 (Guest) rasul: Well thats a Sick alana and by the end of the term all the Materials done
  • 01:02 SuelleWilliams: welcome AA. what do you think about the Draft Professional Standards for Teachers?
  • 01:02 (Guest) rasul: Alot of the stuff goes in the Headteachers home
  • 01:03 (Guest) HarryGill: Good evening Mrs. Hamilton.
  • 01:06 (Guest) HarryGill: Rasul, are you a teacher.
  • 01:07 (Guest) rasul: No i am Former and a Current PTA President o i know what takes place everyday
  • 01:07 (Guest) EvelynHamilton: Good evening
  • 01:07 SuelleWilliams: Hi Mrs. Hamilton. Welcome!
  • 01:08 (Guest) HarryGill: Hello Keith, do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Your opinion matters.
  • 01:09 DoodmattieSingh: From listening to the teachers and education officers at the consultations I am getting the feeling that Departments of Education and schools have started working (where possible) towards the standards outlined in the draft
  • 01:10 alana: I know so why not let it be the department????? It is so ridiculous and time wasting. i don't know if we are all aware of the neccessary run a round that is require in order to get money from the MOE?? Three quotations are need... so if a pencil is $40 @ giftland, a book is $30@ @
  • 01:10 fenton: hello good night to all.
  • 01:11 SuelleWilliams: welcome fenton
  • 01:11 fenton: is the minister there?
  • 01:12 alana: @ streach meh dollars but pencil is 50 then they have to go back at gifland for the pencil.... how stupid is that???
  • 01:12 SuelleWilliams: no. she could not join us this evening as she attending to other pressing matters.
  • 01:12 SuelleWilliams: whatever you share here will be shared with minister.
  • 01:13 (Guest) rasul: Well since nobody is talking about the topic presented why not lets start the conversation on PTAs and we can continue next week do you all agree
  • 01:14 (Guest) rasul: Priya in Parliament
  • 01:14 fenton: ok but my topic is not based on professional standards for teachers.is that ok?
  • 01:14 (Guest) EvelynHamilton: Are we still discussing standards for teachers?
  • 01:14 SuelleWilliams: the topic for next week's conversation is PTA rasul
  • 01:14 SuelleWilliams: yes Mrs. Hamilton
  • 01:15 fenton: since i am new i think i may missed the topic but would kindle like to share my ideas
  • 01:15 fenton: please
  • 01:15 SuelleWilliams: for as far as possible we would like to stay on topic. however, if you -fenton- have something to share then go ahead
  • 01:16 fenton: ok thanks alot
  • 01:17 (Guest) rasul: I have something to say
  • 01:17 (Guest) HarryGill: Alana, it is called ACCOUNTABILITY. The MOE, like all other government departments have a duty to ensure the people's tax dollars are spent responsibly. Getting three quotations before purchase is made is necessary to ensure TRANSPARENCY. You don't wasn't the MOE to be accused of corruption, do you?
  • 01:18 DoodmattieSingh: Participants at one cluster felt that for the standards to work all teachers should be trained in (i) behaviour management (ii) dealing with learners with Special Education Needs – training in this area has begun and will be aggressively pursued during the current MOE Strategic Plan period (2014 – 2018)(ii) how to incorporate ICT in the teaching/learning process – training is currently offered at CPCE and at NCERD
  • 01:18 abiola: hi ms 101 good night
  • 01:18 (Guest) HarryGill: want
  • 01:20 (Guest) rasul: Since no one is writing teachers should have dresscode dresscode should be standardized as well
  • 01:20 SuelleWilliams: taken rasul. we'll make a note.
  • 01:20 (Guest) rasul: Thank You
  • 01:21 SuelleWilliams: fenton?
  • 01:21 DoodmattieSingh: dress code is in the Code of Conduct for Teachers, this doc is shared with all new teachers on appointment by the TSC
  • 01:22 (Guest) rasul: You see i am here to help the system but some people take me personal
  • 01:22 (Guest) HarryGill: That's a great idea Rasul, having a dress code for teachers would be Leadership by Example.
  • 01:22 (Guest) EvelynHamilton: I think that agreement on standards could have a profound effect on how society views teachers and if properly enforced could have a major impact on the quality of the delivery of education u
  • 01:23 fenton: my topic is based on the new nursery school in diamondd housing scheme located in 14th avenue my son was to enroll there but when we spoke to the headmistress for th enrollment i got to understand according to her that the school is not for anyone on the other half of diamond (that is like 1 to 4th bridge peole are not allowed to go to the school)i also got to understand that children from 13 to 17th avenue are only allowed to register in the school.because i am from 20th street.
  • 01:23 DoodmattieSingh: Yes CPO
  • 01:24 (Guest) HarryGill: In my days at school, male teachers always wore shirts WITH ties. As students, we had a lot of respect for teachers then.
  • 01:24 MarcelHutson: I agree Ms Hamilton thats why I think Licensing of teachers is the way to go
  • 01:24 Rae101: will this standards address teachers appraisal, i ask becuase my school my school has just developed one to assess teachers, students assessing teachers, HOds assessing teachers, and no body to assess HOD and deputy and principal
  • 01:25 alana: I am not saying three bill should not be required, I am saying it is taking away the from the kids
  • 01:25 DoodmattieSingh: we will attend to the issue at diamond Nursery ASP
  • 01:25 (Guest) rasul: Is this being enforced some teachers across the country are bent on wearing the tighest clothes with split till up to their rear breast out and some even wear palazo pants to school is this the dress code you are talking about who does the supervising/monitoring
  • 01:26 (Guest) HarryGill: I agree with both Mrs. Hamilton and Mr. Hudson here.
  • 01:26 Rae101: Will any body help teachers at the gti that are going through hell
  • 01:27 SuelleWilliams: what do you mean rae101
  • 01:27 fenton: ok thank you
  • 01:27 DoodmattieSingh: teachers will be appraised based on the standards - the system of teacher appraisal will be revised
  • 01:27 fenton: one more question
  • 01:28 Rae101: SuelleWilliams right now we are planning to write the Minister, to seek for justice
  • 01:28 alana: dress code is only a sore point with young teachers. does the H/T have the right to send home a teacher if she is not properly dressed?
  • 01:28 (Guest) rasul: As far i am i aware Yes
  • 01:29 MarcelHutson: Respectability comes with well delineated lines of conduct and performance.Thats why lawyers and doctors have the edge
  • 01:29 (Guest) rasul: But the Officers can respond quickly
  • 01:30 (Guest) rasul: Long ago you had to wear sober colours to school
  • 01:30 Rae101: two lecturers applied for promotion and the principal throw them away and told us he is not looking at it, when we asked he sate giving us all kinds of excuses while we were told this afternoon that others are with the Minister for signing
  • 01:30 fenton: my daughter is attending st.roses high and the cost of transportation is very steep,to compound that the cost of text books is also high.why is it the MOE is not going ebooks which will help parents minimize costs of textbooks?
  • 01:31 Rae101: throw the applications literally in the bin becasue the never see the light of the day
  • 01:31 alana: then unless everyone come to school with a professional mind set a lot of rules will be adhere to
  • 01:32 SuelleWilliams: noted rae101.
  • 01:32 (Guest) rasul: And you weren't allowed to wear long dangling earings.Now look at teachers infront the children in the clasroom
  • 01:33 Rae101: SuelleWilliams i am hoping somebody will hear us because even the board have not listened to us since we wrote the chairman
  • 01:33 SuelleWilliams: if you think of anything you wish to add to tonight's conversation you may send your comments via www.facebook.com/ministryofeducationguyana. or via this website.
  • 01:34 (Guest) rasul: Good Night All
  • 01:34 fenton: goodnight.
  • 01:34 (Guest) HarryGill: Good night everyone, thank you for your contribution.
  • 01:34 alana: Theachers ask for respect but do not commands it. I saw a teacher talking with a parent who wore a short skirt to drop her child off and in front of the building there is a 4*4 dress code board
  • 01:35 MarcelHutson: Good night friends
  • 01:35 SuelleWilliams: thanks you all for contributing. Goodnight everyone! see you next week when we discuss PTAs.
  • 01:37 SuelleWilliams: the admin will be closing the room in 1 minute.
  • 01:37 Amelia: hello
  • 01:37 alana: good night all!
  • 01:37 Amelia: hi alana
  • 01:38 alana: hi!
  • 01:38 Amelia: i just join this chat room-how can i get on to an edu officer?
  • 01:39 alana: i think they r done 4 the night
  • 01:39 Amelia: o my
  • 01:39 SuelleWilliams: send us your comment via facebook page or contact via this website.
  • 01:39 SuelleWilliams: good night all.
  • Published in Let's Chat Archive

    The Ministry of Education is inviting members of the public to participate in its countrywide Consultations on Professional Standards for Teachers.
    Professional Standards for Teachers set expectations for achieving desired educational outcomes. The Ministry of Education would like these standards to reflect professional consensus of what is desirable in the supervision, leadership and delivery of education.
    Below is the National Schedule of Consultations on Professional Standards for Teachers for the month of May 2014

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    In a coordinated effort to craft a model professional standards policy document for teachers, the Ministry of Education (MOE) is hosting a series of public consultations countrywide with a number of key stakeholders. This process is designed to gain feedback on ways to improve the Standards, and to invite engagement from the profession.

    Copies of the draft Professional Standards for Teachers were made available to teachers in the printed form for their perusal and comments. The ministry has also placed the document here: Draft Professional Standards for Teachers to allow for additional comments to be made and to facilitate those who would like to contribute but are unable to physically be present at consultations. In addition, members of the public were invited to submit their comments on the document via email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. .

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